Screamin Eagle Syn 3

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    Hallo zusammen,


    hat jemand Erfahrung mit folgendem Öl:


    SCREAMIN EAGLE SYN 3 Vollsynthetiköl -SAE 20 W 50 -


    Es soll angeblich als Motoröl, Getriebeöl und Primäröl einsetzbar sein.
    Zugelassen für Big Twin ab Baujahr 1984. Somit ein Öl für alle Bereiche.


    Fährt es bereits jemand und kann eine Aussage treffen?


    Info wäre nett.


    Viele Grüße

    Fahr ich vom ersten Service an . Etwas teuer , aber fast das Beste .Super Temperaturfest .Siehe dazu den Ölthreat von Peter Viczenas Homeserver . Von Fuchs das 20 /60 sei rechnerisch noch besser . Brauchst halt nur noch eine Sorte wenn mal was zum Nachfüllen wäre . Ich fahre auch ohne Ölkühler und da kommt M.Öl ja doch manchmal an seine Grenzen .


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    Aus nem Amerikanischen Forum:



    HD’s Syn3 Oil – A Real Synthetic or Not?


    According to the "Material Safety Data Sheet" for H-D's SYN3, it is chemically a blend of 60% synthetic and 40% petroleum oils. But, the chemical composition notwithstanding, the courts have ruled that it is legal for them to advertise their "60/40 blend" as a "synthetic" motor oil.



    Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) on the SYN-3, as filed with the Federal Government.
    Manufactured by - Citgo Petroleum.
    Composition section:


    Component
    CAS #
    Concentration


    (1) 1-Decene Homopolymer, hydrogenated
    68037-01-4
    50% - 70%


    (2) Proprietary Ingredients
    Proprietary Mixture
    1% - 10%


    (3) Polyisobutylene
    9003-27-4
    1% - 10%


    (4) Distillates, Petroleum, Hydrotreated Heavy Paraffinic
    64742-54-7
    0% - 20%


    (5) Distillates, Petroleum, Solvent-Refined Heavy Paraffinic
    64741-88-4
    0% - 20%


    (6) Zinc Alkyldithiophosphate
    68649-42-3
    0% - 2%


    Item (1) is a Group IV base oil. unable to locate the manufacturer of this base oil. Group IV and V base oils are the only "true" synthetics to the cognoscenti.


    Item (2) is probably their additive package (boron, calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, moly), but it is conceivable there could also be some "secret" synthetic oil, maybe an ester type oil, included in it.


    Item (3) is a fancy name for synthetic rubber (or elastomer) but this is probably considered to be "synthetic" oil as well.


    However, Item (4) is a Group II base oil, namely Conoco Pure Performance Base Oil, either 110N, 225N or 600N. no one is calling a Group II oil a synthetic.


    No information on the group number of Item (5), but it is Conoco's Cit-Con 650N Base Oil. It's presumed that it is a Group I oil as it is solvent refined. Most quality blenders are not using Group I oils in their premium motor oils and they are not considered synthetics.


    (From the MSDS for the HD 360 20w50 oil: The major base oil constituents in it are the same ones as are listed in Items (4) & (5) above.)


    I think the Items (4) & (5) above, are to keep the old air-heads running without bearing skid and gasket leaks. Good for them, but not for us?


    Harley-Davidson talks about SYN3 in their advertising as:
    "Developed with a proprietary blend of three synthetic basestocks, ..."


    Or not!?!


    Since there are significant amounts of Group I and II oils in the SYN3, could the MoCo have stretched the definition of "synthetic" a bit further than Castrol did when changing Syntec from a PAO Group IV base to a hydrocracked Group III base?


    Exxon/Mobil (Mobil 1 synthetic) lost a lawsuit trying to go after a few oil companies for advertising blends as full synthetic. Mobil lost, and now the oil companies do not have to disclose on the label it contains Group I, II or III base stocks which are all petroleum based.


    So it is legal for Harley to market syn3 as a full synthetic, even though it is only 60% synthetic and the rest petroleum based.


    If you want a fully synthetic oil, buy Mobil-1, RedLine or Amsoil, although Amsoil always seemed a little too "snake oil" for me.
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    Contributed by: 06FXDBI

    In den letzten 5 Jahren hat sich erheblich viel auf dem Gebiet der Öle getan. Mittlerweile schafft man es ohne weiteres, auch Motoröle auf Basis mineralischer Öle herzustellen, die an die Spezifikationen von "echten und reinen" Synthetikölen herankommen. Um dem Rechnung zu tragen wurde diesen Ölen gleichfalls erlaubt, sich "synthetic" zu nennen.


    Mir ist es ehrlich egal, ob das Öl aus dem Boden, aus Synthesegrundstoffen oder aus Ameisenpisse gewonnen wird. Hauptsache es funktioniert.